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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 02/17/2014 04:06 AM, Peter Lothberg wrote: Comcast:: "You don't qualify to peer with us". What did you do to make Comcast mad at you? Their view of the future is that they talk to themself, facebook, google and apple. I access machines all over the world, all day, every day. I honestly have yet to have problems elsewhere. US has a problem (self created..) We have MANY self-created problems. :-( -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by roll＠Stupi.SE

Comcast:: "You don't qualify to peer with us". What did you do to make Comcast mad at you? Their view of the future is that they talk to themself, facebook, google and apple. I do not understand, but they are trying to reduce inbound capacty to themself as much as possible, thay have all the content you need on-net... US has a problem (self created..) -P

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by b4＠gewt.net

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote: That's why I want a non-residential ISP to provide me with service. I don't think I'll get that here, though. :( Not at a price you can afford , no. :) Unless I convince OAR.net I am doing legitimate educational research in the field of computer history/aracheology, correct. ;) -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by b4＠gewt.net

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, Peter Lothberg wrote: Comcast:: "You don't qualify to peer with us". What did you do to make Comcast mad at you? Their view of the future is that they talk to themself, facebook, google and apple. I do not understand, but they are trying to reduce inbound capacty to themself as much as possible, thay have all the content you need on-net... That's why I want a non-residential ISP to provide me with service. I don't think I'll get that here, though. :( US has a problem (self created..) -P -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by bob＠jfcl.com

Comcast:: "You don't qualify to peer with us". What did you do to make Comcast mad at you? Apparently my ISP hasn't managed to tick them off (yet!) bob at falsetto:~$ traceroute www.neurotica.com ttraceroute to www.neurotica.com (50.73.179.4), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 fvs338.jfcl.com (10.1.1.1) 0.774 ms 1.090 ms 1.271 ms 2 64-142-52-1.dsl.static.sonic.net (64.142.52.1) 13.593 ms 14.975 ms 17.021 ms 3 113.at-4-0-0.gw3.200p-sf.sonic.net (208.106.28.165) 18.749 ms 20.124 ms 22.171 ms 4 0.ae2.gw.200p-sf.sonic.net (70.36.211.53) 23.731 ms 25.083 ms 27.143 ms 5 as0.gw2.200p-sf.sonic.net (208.106.96.250) 28.193 ms 30.054 ms 31.694 ms 6 0.ge-7-2-0.gw.pao1.sonic.net (69.12.211.117) 33.627 ms 33.302 ms 35.180 ms 7 xe-1-0-6.ar1.pao1.us.nlayer.net (69.22.130.85) 38.834 ms 26.268 ms 28.978 ms 8 ae0-110g.cr1.pao1.us.nlayer.net (69.22.153.18) 27.631 ms 25.390 ms 27.234 ms 9 ae1-70g.cr1.sjc1.us.nlayer.net (69.22.143.165) 27.492 ms 25.554 ms 27.596 ms 10 ae1-40g.ar2.sjc1.us.nlayer.net (69.22.143.118) 31.248 ms 28.758 ms 28.708 ms 11 be-102-pe01.11greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.net (173.167.57.121) 32.930 ms 33.401 ms 29.318 ms 12 pos-2-0-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.88.109) 31.796 ms 30.321 ms 30.545 ms 13 he-0-6-0-0-cr01.denverqwest.co.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.89.122) 55.265 ms 57.970 ms 57.626 ms 14 he-3-12-0-0-cr01.denver.co.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.89.33) 58.132 ms 54.625 ms 58.053 ms 15 he-5-14-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.85.117) 80.883 ms 77.620 ms 76.401 ms 16 68.86.86.225 (68.86.86.225) 99.112 ms 92.858 ms 114.011 ms 17 he-0-13-0-0-ar03.pittsburgh.pa.pitt.comcast.net (68.86.91.186) 118.640 ms 100.176 ms 121.002 ms 18 te-0-0-0-0-sur01.tarentum.pa.pitt.comcast.net (69.139.195.2) 103.455 ms 95.789 ms 96.087 ms 19 te-3-0-0-ten02.tarentum.pa.pitt.comcast.net (68.86.101.78) 113.636 ms te-1-0-0-ten02.tarentum.pa.pitt.comcast.net (68.86.101.74) 97.218 ms 95.282 ms 20 c-71-61-79-167.hsd1.pa.comcast.net (71.61.79.167) 107.837 ms 105.372 ms 105.139 ms 21 webserver.neurotica.com (50.73.179.4) 107.953 ms 108.926 ms 109.217 ms bob at falsetto:~$ Bob

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by roll＠Stupi.SE

Please remember that the USA has piss poort Internet services compared to the rest of the world, despite our best efforts. Internet is fine, It just don't include Comcast.... RP/0/RP0/CPU0:HFR1-F#sh int POS0/3/0/0 POS0/3/0/0 is up, line protocol is up (APS not Configured ) Interface state transitions: 2 Hardware is Packet over SONET/SDH Description: OC768 Private Peering to Sunet <ip at nordu.net> Internet address is 193.11.20.146/30 MTU 4474 bytes, BW 39813120 Kbit (Max: 39813120 Kbit) reliability 255/255, txload 0/255, rxload 0/255 Encapsulation HDLC, crc 32, controller loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec) Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00 Last clearing of "show interface" counters never 30 second input rate 1771000 bits/sec, 522 packets/sec 30 second output rate 2082000 bits/sec, 634 packets/sec GigabitEthernet6/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is GigMac 1 Port 10 GigabitEthernet Plus, address is 0007.84ad.5e64 (bia 0007.84ad.5e64) Description: PNI to Tele2 NetnOd ODF fib 3-4 min SPA-1X10GE-L-V2 Internet address is 130.244.200.246/30 MTU 4470 bytes, BW 10000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Full Duplex, 10000Mbps, link type is force-up, media type is LR 1310nm output flow-control is XON, input flow-control is XON ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:01, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters never Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 52510 drops 5 minute input rate 3237000 bits/sec, 736 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 2729000 bits/sec, 668 packets/sec GigabitEthernet7/0/0.15 is up, line protocol is up Description: Netnod Exchange, Switch B Hardware is GigMac 1 Port 10 GigabitEthernet, address is 0007.84ad.5eca (bia 0007.84ad.5eca) Internet address is 194.68.128.34/24 MTU 4470 bytes, BW 10000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255 Encapsulation 802.1Q Virtual LAN, Vlan ID 15. ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 GigabitEthernet7/0/0.15 Protocol Pkts In Chars In Pkts Out Chars Out IP 1652086220 796727958713 4589018 2768817222 MPLS 0 0 0 0 IPv6 Unicast 4342154 1353546474 1826208 293546956 IPv6 Mcast 79762604 7189870792 0 Etc... -P

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by form＠pdp-11.org.ru

I have enjoyed your cat pictures too. :-) :D

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 02/16/2014 09:48 PM, Oleg Safiullin wrote: You can download these files here too: http://pdp-11.org.ru/~form/files/rsts/ Thank you Oleg. I have wondered, is that your site? Yes. http://pdp-11.org.ru/ is my site. But it's in Russian :) Ah! Thank you for providing all of that. I have enjoyed your cat pictures too. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by form＠pdp-11.org.ru

Dave McGuire wrote: On 02/16/2014 09:42 PM, Oleg Safiullin wrote: You can download these files here too: http://pdp-11.org.ru/~form/files/rsts/ Thank you Oleg. I have wondered, is that your site? -Dave Yes. http://pdp-11.org.ru/ is my site. But it's in Russian :)

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by roll＠Stupi.SE

Attach to the real Internet? rutten$ traceroute www.neurotica.com traceroute to www.neurotica.com (50.73.179.4), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 R29A-GW.Stupi.SE (192.108.198.254) 68.785 ms 406.344 ms 0.724 ms 2 R29BFR-GE-2-0-6-GW.Stupi.NET (192.108.195.150) 200.728 ms !H * 0.497 ms !H rutten$ You and your special internet. ;) Comcast:: "You don't qualify to peer with us". -P

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 02/16/2014 09:42 PM, Oleg Safiullin wrote: You can download these files here too: http://pdp-11.org.ru/~form/files/rsts/ Thank you Oleg. I have wondered, is that your site? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by b4＠gewt.net

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, Peter Lothberg wrote: Attach to the real Internet? rutten$ traceroute www.neurotica.com traceroute to www.neurotica.com (50.73.179.4), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 R29A-GW.Stupi.SE (192.108.198.254) 68.785 ms 406.344 ms 0.724 ms 2 R29BFR-GE-2-0-6-GW.Stupi.NET (192.108.195.150) 200.728 ms !H * 0.497 ms !H rutten$ You and your special internet. ;) Comcast:: "You don't qualify to peer with us". Even _I_ have a route to you! (With truly awful latency) b4 at meaghan:~ traceroute 192.108.198.254 traceroute to 192.108.198.254 (192.108.198.254), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 marianne (10.20.0.5) 0.743 ms 0.536 ms 0.520 ms 2 madison-RtR (172.16.0.1) 3.099 ms 3.250 ms madison (10.10.0.1) 2.773 ms 3 adsl-75-49-19-254.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net (75.49.19.254) 11.527 ms 11.416 ms 11.596 ms 4 dist2-vlan62.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net (71.149.193.34) 11.289 ms 11.140 ms 11.796 ms 5 bb2-g10-0-0.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net (151.164.55.65) 12.015 ms 11.379 ms 10.914 ms 6 gar8.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.133.161) 23.892 ms 21.670 ms 24.646 ms 7 144.232.25.149 (144.232.25.149) 21.276 ms 21.138 ms 20.610 ms 8 144.232.1.105 (144.232.1.105) 21.303 ms 21.857 ms 21.295 ms 9 144.232.20.186 (144.232.20.186) 28.010 ms 47.836 ms 27.041 ms 10 144.232.5.219 (144.232.5.219) 38.436 ms 38.285 ms 38.051 ms 11 sl-bb21-msq-2-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.25.112) 38.431 ms 38.081 ms 38.466 ms 12 144.232.24.13 (144.232.24.13) 116.768 ms 118.294 ms 117.249 ms 13 sl-bb21-cop-15-0-0.sprintlink.net (80.77.64.34) 117.007 ms 117.361 ms 117.740 ms 14 sl-bb21-sto-14-0-0.sprintlink.net (213.206.129.34) 126.345 ms 125.656 ms 124.911 ms 15 213.206.129.87 (213.206.129.87) 128.022 ms 128.550 ms 128.944 ms 16 BFR5-GE-5-0-0.Stupi.NET (192.108.195.121) 125.537 ms 126.431 ms 125.592 ms 17 R29BFR-GE-3-1-0.Stupi.NET (192.108.195.18) 127.215 ms 126.163 ms 125.685 ms 18 r29a-ge-2-0-gw.stupi.net (192.108.195.149) 583.803 ms * 213.912 ms I'm 9.9mi from a cogent-supplied office building...think the city'll let me run fibre and Key Back will rent me a closet? ;) -P -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by form＠pdp-11.org.ru

Peter Lothberg wrote: On 02/17/2014 03:04 AM, Peter Lothberg wrote: And while on this subject, I wanna buikd a RSTS/E system to, tapes of stuff, anyone? Here you go, Peter: http://www.neurotica.com/misc/rsts/ Note, the DECnet/e tape image is a working one, not the corrupt one that's floating around. Let me know if I can assist. Attach to the real Internet? rutten$ traceroute www.neurotica.com traceroute to www.neurotica.com (50.73.179.4), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 R29A-GW.Stupi.SE (192.108.198.254) 68.785 ms 406.344 ms 0.724 ms 2 R29BFR-GE-2-0-6-GW.Stupi.NET (192.108.195.150) 200.728 ms !H * 0.497 ms !H rutten$ -P You can download these files here too: http://pdp-11.org.ru/~form/files/rsts/

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 02/17/2014 03:33 AM, Peter Lothberg wrote: And while on this subject, I wanna buikd a RSTS/E system to, tapes of stuff, anyone? Here you go, Peter: http://www.neurotica.com/misc/rsts/ Note, the DECnet/e tape image is a working one, not the corrupt one that's floating around. Let me know if I can assist. Attach to the real Internet? rutten$ traceroute www.neurotica.com traceroute to www.neurotica.com (50.73.179.4), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 R29A-GW.Stupi.SE (192.108.198.254) 68.785 ms 406.344 ms 0.724 ms 2 R29BFR-GE-2-0-6-GW.Stupi.NET (192.108.195.150) 200.728 ms !H * 0.497 ms !H rutten$ You'll have to get it via a proxy, I guess. This is the best that's available here, and, working on the net all day every day, it actually never gives me problems. (what is the actual source of that lack of routing?) Please remember that the USA has piss poort Internet services compared to the rest of the world, despite our best efforts. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by b4＠gewt.net

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: You'll have to get it via a proxy, I guess. This is the best that's available here, and, working on the net all day every day, it actually never gives me problems. (what is the actual source of that lack of routing?) Don't blame you for not going with Cogent. ;) Please remember that the USA has piss poort Internet services compared to the rest of the world, despite our best efforts. Yeah. Here you have companies like Cogent. (Who could probably be convinced to provide access to my house.) I'd be limited to T1 though. ;) -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by roll＠Stupi.SE

On 02/17/2014 03:04 AM, Peter Lothberg wrote: And while on this subject, I wanna buikd a RSTS/E system to, tapes of stuff, anyone? Here you go, Peter: http://www.neurotica.com/misc/rsts/ Note, the DECnet/e tape image is a working one, not the corrupt one that's floating around. Let me know if I can assist. Attach to the real Internet? rutten$ traceroute www.neurotica.com traceroute to www.neurotica.com (50.73.179.4), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 R29A-GW.Stupi.SE (192.108.198.254) 68.785 ms 406.344 ms 0.724 ms 2 R29BFR-GE-2-0-6-GW.Stupi.NET (192.108.195.150) 200.728 ms !H * 0.497 ms !H rutten$ -P

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by b4＠gewt.net

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014, Peter Lothberg wrote: Attach to the real Internet? rutten$ traceroute www.neurotica.com traceroute to www.neurotica.com (50.73.179.4), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 R29A-GW.Stupi.SE (192.108.198.254) 68.785 ms 406.344 ms 0.724 ms 2 R29BFR-GE-2-0-6-GW.Stupi.NET (192.108.195.150) 200.728 ms !H * 0.497 ms !H rutten$ -P You and your special internet. ;) melanie:~ b4$ traceroute www.neurotica.com traceroute to www.neurotica.com (50.73.179.4), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 madison (10.10.0.1) 1.456 ms 1.050 ms 0.786 ms 2 adsl-75-49-19-254.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net (75.49.19.254) 10.416 ms 10.005 ms 9.931 ms 3 dist2-vlan50.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net (67.36.13.227) 9.681 ms 10.134 ms 9.420 ms 4 151.164.101.182 (151.164.101.182) 9.732 ms 9.286 ms 9.905 ms 5 gar1.clboh.ip.att.net (12.122.133.105) 21.021 ms 21.061 ms 23.929 ms 6 192.205.37.22 (192.205.37.22) 20.556 ms 20.362 ms 20.648 ms 7 he-3-2-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.83.57) 21.630 ms pos-2-5-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.87.125) 20.607 ms pos-2-4-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.86.161) 23.640 ms 8 he-4-7-0-0-cr01.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.88.157) 36.457 ms 38.121 ms 34.747 ms 9 he-0-14-0-0-ar03.pittsburgh.pa.pitt.comcast.net (68.86.94.186) 43.471 ms 45.989 ms 45.230 ms 10 te-0-0-0-0-sur01.tarentum.pa.pitt.comcast.net (69.139.195.2) 44.775 ms 44.472 ms 44.914 ms 11 te-3-0-0-ten02.tarentum.pa.pitt.comcast.net (68.86.101.78) 43.087 ms te-1-0-0-ten02.tarentum.pa.pitt.comcast.net (68.86.101.74) 43.365 ms te-3-0-0-ten02.tarentum.pa.pitt.comcast.net (68.86.101.78) 42.831 ms 12 c-71-61-79-167.hsd1.pa.comcast.net (71.61.79.167) 50.817 ms 52.535 ms 51.313 ms 13 webserver.neurotica.com (50.73.179.4) 52.980 ms 52.678 ms 51.889 ms -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 02/16/2014 09:15 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: What're the requirements for RSTS/E 10.1? I think I managed to fit it in 40M very carefully in simh once... It will not fit on a single RL02, unfortunately. ;) It fits nicely on am RM02/RM03 (~70MB), with languages etc. I don't know what the strict requirements are for the OS itself, offhand. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by b4＠gewt.net

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: On 02/16/2014 09:15 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: What're the requirements for RSTS/E 10.1? I think I managed to fit it in 40M very carefully in simh once... It will not fit on a single RL02, unfortunately. ;) I should get that UDA50, order a replacement drive, pickup the PSU and run it on the 11/44, then. ;) I'll find another solution for the 11/23+. The {11/03,11/23} can be RT-11 or RSX-11M+. It fits nicely on am RM02/RM03 (~70MB), with languages etc. I don't know what the strict requirements are for the OS itself, offhand. Ahh. -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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OS X (lack of) tape support, was Re: [HECnet] tape image manipulations...

by clemc＠ccc.com

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Apple suddenly and arbitrarily removed the tape drivers from OS X years ago. That was one reason why I dumped OS X. They unilaterally decided that I didn't need tape support, and I don't like being told how to conduct my business. I agree and understand.

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 02/17/2014 03:04 AM, Peter Lothberg wrote: And while on this subject, I wanna buikd a RSTS/E system to, tapes of stuff, anyone? Here you go, Peter: http://www.neurotica.com/misc/rsts/ Note, the DECnet/e tape image is a working one, not the corrupt one that's floating around. Let me know if I can assist. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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RSTS/E tapes, was Re: [HECnet] two dumb RSX questions

by b4＠gewt.net

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: On 02/17/2014 03:04 AM, Peter Lothberg wrote: And while on this subject, I wanna buikd a RSTS/E system to, tapes of stuff, anyone? Here you go, Peter: http://www.neurotica.com/misc/rsts/ Note, the DECnet/e tape image is a working one, not the corrupt one that's floating around. Let me know if I can assist. -Dave What're the requirements for RSTS/E 10.1? I think I managed to fit it in 40M very carefully in simh once... -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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two dumb RSX questions

by roll＠Stupi.SE

Are you giving guest access and/or offering accounts? Sure.. I'll talk to my sys$admin:..... (it needs a guest account) And do you have Fortran? :) It's a basic RSX with DECnet, I'll install anything that anyone can offer for layared products.. And while on this subject, I wanna buikd a RSTS/E system to, tapes of stuff, anyone? -P

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OS X (lack of) tape support, was Re: [HECnet] tape image manipulations...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 02/16/2014 08:33 AM, Clem Cole wrote: As for the OSX lack of mtio.h - i've just pulled it from FreeBSD and never had an issue - obviously there is not driver. I 100% agree -- it does seems nuts and I've b*tched at my friends at Apple about it a few times. Another thing I have on my todo list is try to slide the drivers back into an hackintosh i had running on a vm in a system that has an old DEC/Adaptec PCI card in it that I still use for SCSI tapes. That said, when I have needed the tape I've just used the BSD driver on the base system. Apple suddenly and arbitrarily removed the tape drivers from OS X years ago. That was one reason why I dumped OS X. They unilaterally decided that I didn't need tape support, and I don't like being told how to conduct my business. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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two dumb RSX questions

by phiber＠phiber.com

Nice! Real hardware! One day I'll get my 11/53 back up. Are you giving guest access and/or offering accounts? And do you have Fortran? :) Regards, Mark On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.se> wrote: With (a lot) of help from Johnny I have a RSX11 box on HECnet. It's a 11/53, 1.5M memory, SCSI disk and tape on CMD controller and delqua. (It's in Sunnyvale). $set host krylbo [Attempting a connection, connect OK, ] [Remote host is a RSX-11M+ system] [TYPE ^\,<RET> to return to node SOL] Connected to "KRYLBO" log 10,2 Password: RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87 [1,54] System KRYLBO 16-FEB-14 16:45 Logged on Terminal RT0: as PLT1 Good Afternoon ***************************************************************** * * * Welcome to RSX-11M-PLUS * * * * Version 4.6 Base level 87 * * This is file LB:[1,2]LOGIN.TXT * * * ***************************************************************** Last interactive login on Friday, February 14, 2014 07:40:49 (RT0:) NCP>show exec char Node characteristics as of 16-FEB-14 16:50:52 Executor node = 59.55 (KRYLBO) Identification = RSXBURK, Management version = 4.2.0 Host = 59.55 (KRYLBO), Loop count = 1 Loop length = 40, Loop with = Mixed Incoming timer = 15, Outgoing timer = 30 NSP version = 4.0.0 Maximum links = 10, Delay factor = 32 Delay weight = 2 Inactivity timer = 30, Retransmit factor = 5 Routing version = 2.0.0, Type = Endnode IV Maximum circuits = 1 Incoming proxy = Disabled Outgoing proxy = Disabled Segment buffer size = 576 NCP>show kno cir Known circuits summary as of 16-FEB-14 16:51:06 Circuit = QNA-0 State = On Adjacent node = 59.57 (E825GW) NCP> -P Dave McGuire skrev 2013-12-24 05:14: On 12/23/2013 10:46 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Ahh, got it. I have a bru64k.tap file that I think came from the same place. If you have a brusys.tap file, would you please send me a copy? I can't seem to find that anywhere. Did you try booting the BRU64K tape? Sounds like that should be a BRUSYS system as well. Not sure what the correct name is. I know it by BRUSYS, but there might be some slight difference between the 11M and M+ standalone BRU, or it might just be different versions of the same. BRU64K also rings some bell, so I think I've seem that name as well. I booted it. It seems BRU64K does not support MU: devices. The "regular" BRUSYS does. I don't know what other differences there may be. BRU64K "might" be able to fit into a system with merely 64 k RAM... (And might be older than your other BRU immage ...) Ok. I was mainly concerned about the stuff fitting...I'm assuming 4.2/4.3 are larger than 4.1. 4.1 was the last version I ran. I've found the relevant sections of the documentation and am reading it now. Excellent. Progress! I've restored the DL installation set under simh, moved the RL02 disk images over to a (real) VAX, written them to RL02 packs, and am running a sysgen on a (real) PDP-11/24. It's midway through the assembly of the executive. I took a crappy phone pic: http://www.neurotica.com/misc/pdp1124-rsx-sysgen-20131223.jpg (yes, that bottom RL02 really is dirty...I'll clean it soon) I wish I still had that tape, but sadly it was lost many years ago. Distribution tape for 4.1? I thought you had 4.3 anyway, so what would you use 4.1 for? I wouldn't...but it was a pristine, original DEC RSX-11M distribution tape, and those don't exactly grow on trees. Thank you Johnny. I'm sure I will have other questions as I become reacquainted with RSX. No problems. Feel free to ask anything. Thank you! First question: I'd like to try to get DECnet running on this system, if possible, to get it on HECnet. I've never run DECnet under RSX before. I could put a DEUNA in the machine, but I am running short of slots. I have a DELUA, but I don't recall sysgen asking about DELUAs. Are they compatible at the driver level? Meaning, if I re-do my sysgen to include a DEUNA driver, will that work with a DELUA? -Dave As I remember the SYSGEN/NETGEN task, the controller intended for DECnet should NOT be taken into SYSGEN at all, but later, at the totally separate task of performing NETGEN once Your OS. is up and running, it should be included there. So, no need to redo your SYSGEN when playing with different Ethernet cards. BTW: DELUA replaced DEUNA... /Gvran -SM6NNC

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