On 2014-05-02 01:42, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2014-05-02 01:37, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Hello,
Is TOPS-20's DECnet stack Phase III or IV? I'm trying to throw it in to
the rest of the stuff using a VMS VM.
TOPS-20 V4.1? That would be phase III only. If it even exists...
It exists for sure!
$INFORMATION (ABOUT) VERSION
GSORG TOPS-20 V4.1 KS10, TOPS-20 Monitor 4.1(5471)
TOPS-20 Command processor 5.1(1354)
Program is OPR, version is 4(414)
$INFORMATION (ABOUT) DECNET
Local DECNET node: TOPS20
Accessible DECNET nodes are: TOPS20
Ok. Cool. I seem to remember various issues and stuff with DECnet on a KS and TOPS-20, but I don't recall details.
Thanks. I thought it was Phase III but wasn't sure. Can Phase IV work
with Phase III? There's some rule pertaining to that I forgot...
Yes, it can. The limitations are that phase III nodes can only talk with machines in the same area, and only machines with node numbers less than 256 (obviously).
Johnny
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On Fri, 2 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2014-05-02 01:37, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Hello,
Is TOPS-20's DECnet stack Phase III or IV? I'm trying to throw it in to
the rest of the stuff using a VMS VM.
TOPS-20 V4.1? That would be phase III only. If it even exists...
It exists for sure!
$INFORMATION (ABOUT) VERSION
GSORG TOPS-20 V4.1 KS10, TOPS-20 Monitor 4.1(5471)
TOPS-20 Command processor 5.1(1354)
Program is OPR, version is 4(414)
$INFORMATION (ABOUT) DECNET
Local DECNET node: TOPS20
Accessible DECNET nodes are: TOPS20
Thanks. I thought it was Phase III but wasn't sure. Can Phase IV work with Phase III? There's some rule pertaining to that I forgot...
Johnny
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On 2014-05-02 01:37, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Hello,
Is TOPS-20's DECnet stack Phase III or IV? I'm trying to throw it in to
the rest of the stuff using a VMS VM.
TOPS-20 V4.1? That would be phase III only. If it even exists...
Johnny
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|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Hello,
Is TOPS-20's DECnet stack Phase III or IV? I'm trying to throw it in to the rest of the stuff using a VMS VM.
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Odd. I'll look at that later on.
-brian
On May 1, 2014, at 17:28, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote:
If your dyndns updates it'll automatically happen. Otherwise it'll have to wait until later when (if?) I get a chance to sit down at the computer. Have a billion things to do before we head out of town tomorrow.
I've updated it. The script hasn't happened though.
-brian
On May 1, 2014, at 15:50, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
dev.gimme-sympathy.org (75.49.0.26)
Erm. Manually push to 75.49.13.20 now. Router upgrade finished.
-brian
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On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote:
If your dyndns updates it'll automatically happen. Otherwise it'll have to wait until later when (if?) I get a chance to sit down at the computer. Have a billion things to do before we head out of town tomorrow.
I've updated it. The script hasn't happened though.
-brian
On May 1, 2014, at 15:50, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
dev.gimme-sympathy.org (75.49.0.26)
Erm. Manually push to 75.49.13.20 now. Router upgrade finished.
-brian
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If your dyndns updates it'll automatically happen. Otherwise it'll have to wait until later when (if?) I get a chance to sit down at the computer. Have a billion things to do before we head out of town tomorrow.
-brian
On May 1, 2014, at 15:50, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote:
dev.gimme-sympathy.org (75.49.0.26)
Erm. Manually push to 75.49.13.20 now. Router upgrade finished.
-brian
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Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2014, Oleg Safiullin wrote:
It's exceptionally powerful! Looks like 5.5 is out now, too. I'll need to upgrade my router.
hehe :)
--
pdp-11:~% sysctl kern.version
kern.version=OpenBSD 5.5 (PDP11) #20: Sat Apr 5 21:13:44 NOVT 2014
root at pdp-11.org.ru:/sys/arch/amd64/compile/PDP11
pdp-11:~%
If only that was actually running on a PDP-11...;)
hehe :)
It's pdp-11...
.org.ru :D
On Fri, 2 May 2014, Oleg Safiullin wrote:
It's exceptionally powerful! Looks like 5.5 is out now, too. I'll need to upgrade my router.
hehe :)
--
pdp-11:~% sysctl kern.version
kern.version=OpenBSD 5.5 (PDP11) #20: Sat Apr 5 21:13:44 NOVT 2014
root at pdp-11.org.ru:/sys/arch/amd64/compile/PDP11
pdp-11:~%
If only that was actually running on a PDP-11...;)
# sysctl kern.version
kern.version=OpenBSD 5.4 (GENERIC) #31: Thu Aug 1 11:36:33 MDT 2013
deraadt at sparc64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC
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It's exceptionally powerful! Looks like 5.5 is out now, too. I'll need to upgrade my router.
hehe :)
--
pdp-11:~% sysctl kern.version
kern.version=OpenBSD 5.5 (PDP11) #20: Sat Apr 5 21:13:44 NOVT 2014
root at pdp-11.org.ru:/sys/arch/amd64/compile/PDP11
pdp-11:~%
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 02:03:33PM -0400, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote:
for each tunnel? I'll likely pull it from tftp using a cronjob and
shoving it in to a pf anchor.
Use a table instead.
Oooh. I wasn't aware of tables. Pf really does have some neat features.
pf is my favorite firewall of all times. It's awesome.
It's exceptionally powerful! Looks like 5.5 is out now, too. I'll need to upgrade my router.
I have tftp-proxy running, but I was unable to pull anything via
tftp. Is it my end or yours?
If you can pull your router config you can pull this. Same server.
Is anyone else's end up? My DNS is up, rules are in place and no
GRE packets were being logged to pflog.
Reloading router: 75.49.17.245 hecnetconfigupdate 199.166.5.172 tunnel-dev.gimme-sympathy.org-ipv4.txt
Error reloading router: dev.gimme-sympathy.org :: No SNMP response received before timeout
Something is amis.
Ahhhh! That isn't the current IP for dev.gimme-sympathy.org!
dev.gimme-sympathy.org (75.49.0.26)
-brian
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On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 05/01/2014 02:10 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 05/01/2014 02:03 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Is anyone else's end up? My DNS is up, rules are in place and no GRE
packets were being logged to pflog.
My stuff's up all the time. You can always ping 61.1 (A61RTR) for
testing, that's a Cisco 7206VXR. Also, 61.3 (EBOLA) is nearly always
up; that's a VAX-4000/700A.
I meant your tunnel. ;)
You won't see those unless my tunnel is up, Sparky. ;)
Right. ;)
all gre 50.73.179.1 <- 10.10.0.10 NO_TRAFFIC:SINGLE
all gre 75.49.0.26 (10.10.0.10) -> 50.73.179.1 SINGLE:NO_TRAFFIC
Tunnel53 is up, line protocol is up
marjorie#sh decnet route
Node Cost Hops Next Hop to Node Expires Prio
*9.1 10 1 Ethernet0 -> 9.1 43
*9.2 10 1 Ethernet0 -> 9.2 45
*9.5 10 1 Ethernet0 -> 9.5 27
*9.10 10 1 Ethernet0 -> 9.10 33
*9.1023 0 0 (Local) -> 9.1023
marjorie#
Did I forget something? Hmmm.
-Dave
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On 05/01/2014 02:10 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 05/01/2014 02:03 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Is anyone else's end up? My DNS is up, rules are in place and no GRE
packets were being logged to pflog.
My stuff's up all the time. You can always ping 61.1 (A61RTR) for
testing, that's a Cisco 7206VXR. Also, 61.3 (EBOLA) is nearly always
up; that's a VAX-4000/700A.
I meant your tunnel. ;)
You won't see those unless my tunnel is up, Sparky. ;)
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 05/01/2014 02:03 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Is anyone else's end up? My DNS is up, rules are in place and no GRE
packets were being logged to pflog.
My stuff's up all the time. You can always ping 61.1 (A61RTR) for
testing, that's a Cisco 7206VXR. Also, 61.3 (EBOLA) is nearly always
up; that's a VAX-4000/700A.
I meant your tunnel. ;)
-Dave
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On 05/01/2014 02:03 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Is anyone else's end up? My DNS is up, rules are in place and no GRE
packets were being logged to pflog.
My stuff's up all the time. You can always ping 61.1 (A61RTR) for
testing, that's a Cisco 7206VXR. Also, 61.3 (EBOLA) is nearly always
up; that's a VAX-4000/700A.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:46:47PM -0400, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Brian,
As I run pf at the Edge, can you add a bit that autogenerates a file
that looks like:
pass in on $ext_if proto gre from <remote tunnel IP> to any port
rdr-to 10.10.0.10 port snmp
for each tunnel? I'll likely pull it from tftp using a cronjob and
shoving it in to a pf anchor.
Use a table instead.
Oooh. I wasn't aware of tables. Pf really does have some neat features.
table <hecnet_gre> persist file "/etc/hecnet"
pass in on $ext_if proto gre from <hecnet_gre> to any port
rdr-to 10.10.0.10 port snmp
then fetch ip_list via tftp and put it as /etc/hetnet
I have tftp-proxy running, but I was unable to pull anything via tftp. Is it my end or yours?
Then run: pfctl -t hecnet_gre -Tr -f /etc/hetnet
This file is re-generated every time my script is triggered. That being
said, it obviously only changes if people join/leave/change ip.
-brian
Is anyone else's end up? My DNS is up, rules are in place and no GRE packets were being logged to pflog.
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http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 02:03:33PM -0400, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote:
for each tunnel? I'll likely pull it from tftp using a cronjob and
shoving it in to a pf anchor.
Use a table instead.
Oooh. I wasn't aware of tables. Pf really does have some neat features.
pf is my favorite firewall of all times. It's awesome.
I have tftp-proxy running, but I was unable to pull anything via
tftp. Is it my end or yours?
If you can pull your router config you can pull this. Same server.
Is anyone else's end up? My DNS is up, rules are in place and no
GRE packets were being logged to pflog.
Reloading router: 75.49.17.245 hecnetconfigupdate 199.166.5.172 tunnel-dev.gimme-sympathy.org-ipv4.txt
Error reloading router: dev.gimme-sympathy.org :: No SNMP response received before timeout
Something is amis.
-brian
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:46:47PM -0400, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Brian,
As I run pf at the Edge, can you add a bit that autogenerates a file
that looks like:
pass in on $ext_if proto gre from <remote tunnel IP> to any port
rdr-to 10.10.0.10 port snmp
for each tunnel? I'll likely pull it from tftp using a cronjob and
shoving it in to a pf anchor.
Use a table instead.
table <hecnet_gre> persist file "/etc/hecnet"
pass in on $ext_if proto gre from <hecnet_gre> to any port
rdr-to 10.10.0.10 port snmp
then fetch ip_list via tftp and put it as /etc/hetnet
Then run: pfctl -t hecnet_gre -Tr -f /etc/hetnet
This file is re-generated every time my script is triggered. That being
said, it obviously only changes if people join/leave/change ip.
-brian
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 05/01/2014 12:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Speaking of PDP-11s, has your intermediary gotten the haul from VCF your
way yet?
Yes! I haven't looked at them yet, but they're here, safe and sound.
I'll work out a way to get them to you soon.
Cool!
Back to work now.
Back to waiting on crap in my case. ;)
-Dave
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On 05/01/2014 12:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Speaking of PDP-11s, has your intermediary gotten the haul from VCF your
way yet?
Yes! I haven't looked at them yet, but they're here, safe and sound.
I'll work out a way to get them to you soon.
Back to work now.
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 04/30/2014 08:18 PM, Jovan Trujillo wrote:
This is what got me interested in HECnet:
http://www.math.uni-trier.de/~ries/pcud32.pdf
<http://www.math.uni-trier.de/%7Eries/pcud32.pdf>
Have you guys ever banded together to solve a few math problems with
this network?
I would be interested in learning how to do it.
That would be LOTS of fun. I'm in!
I'm in, too.
I'm even more interested if we could do it with (or including)
PDP-11s. Many of my PDP-11s have serious floating point hardware.
I'd totally add my 11/44 to it. ;) (Still need to pick up that PSU...)
Speaking of PDP-11s, has your intermediary gotten the haul from VCF your way yet?
-Dave
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On 04/30/2014 08:18 PM, Jovan Trujillo wrote:
This is what got me interested in HECnet:
http://www.math.uni-trier.de/~ries/pcud32.pdf
<http://www.math.uni-trier.de/%7Eries/pcud32.pdf>
Have you guys ever banded together to solve a few math problems with
this network?
I would be interested in learning how to do it.
That would be LOTS of fun. I'm in!
I'm even more interested if we could do it with (or including)
PDP-11s. Many of my PDP-11s have serious floating point hardware.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Brian,
As I run pf at the Edge, can you add a bit that autogenerates a file that looks like:
pass in on $ext_if proto gre from <remote tunnel IP> to any port rdr-to 10.10.0.10 port snmp
for each tunnel? I'll likely pull it from tftp using a cronjob and shoving it in to a pf anchor.
Thanks!
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
This is what got me interested in HECnet: http://www.math.uni-trier.de/~ries/pcud32.pdf
Have you guys ever banded together to solve a few math problems with this network?
I would be interested in learning how to do it.
