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by b4＠gewt.net

On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote: Still doesn't like you. :) Reloading router: 75.49.13.201 hecnetconfigupdate 199.166.5.172 tunnel-dev.gimme-sympathy.org-ipv4.txt Error reloading router: dev.gimme-sympathy.org :: No SNMP response received before timeout Is SNMP using UDP or TCP? pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from 199.166.5.172 to any port snmp rdr-to 10.10.0.10 port snmp access-list 2 permit 199.166.5.172 All seems like it should be working...perhaps SNMP is supposed to be UDP? -brian -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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by b4＠gewt.net

On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote: On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 05:28:12PM -0400, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote: If your dyndns updates it'll automatically happen. Otherwise it'll have to wait until later when (if?) I get a chance to sit down at the computer. Have a billion things to do before we head out of town tomorrow. I've updated it. The script hasn't happened though. Ooops, I never set the cron job back up on the new machine. :) Oops. ;) Reason for change: Modified Tunnel52: Cory Smelosky (Area 9) "ip" changed from "75.49.17.245" to "75.49.13.201" Does that seem right to you? Yup. Did the SNMP push succeed? -brian -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2014-05-02 08:05, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 11:58:56PM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote: There are very few PDP-11s that won't kick the living snot out of a Commodore 64, FYI. I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. The 64 probably outsold all models of 11 taken together. Well, graphics cards do exists, so that is obviously not a problem. :-) As for sound, it is just an analog signal anyway, and there are plenty of D/A cards around. ;-) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Parallel computing using DECnet

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2014-05-02 05:58, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/01/2014 11:41 PM, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Oh man ha ha so we are going to do amazing things with 64kb. Like those demo scene guys and their commodore 64's. Alright fractals sound like a good first project for something like this. ...we do have 64kb available right? :) Yes. We do have 64K. However, for many machines, that needs to hold both code and data... (For some, you can have 64K code and 64K data.) There are very few PDP-11s that won't kick the living snot out of a Commodore 64, FYI. :-) But using FORTRAN, we could potentially use overlays and such. Well, overlays do not depend on FORTRAN, you can use that no matter what language you choose. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by pontus＠Update.UU.SE

On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 02:09:57AM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote: so it depends on your application and measurement I suppose. We were talking about distributed math apps. Fair enough :-) I'm told there were, probably third party, sound cards for qbus. Has anyone of you seen one or know more? I haven't. I have a really neat Qbus card with a TMS9918 sprite-based video chip on it, though! Which one is that? I have a Matrox card and one of the VSV cards (can't remember which one) /P

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QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 05/02/2014 02:05 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: There are very few PDP-11s that won't kick the living snot out of a Commodore 64, FYI. I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. Me neither. The 64 probably outsold all models of 11 taken together. That's certainly possible, but one cannot argue that their target markets were even remotely related. Or even aware of each other's existence, for tha tmatter. so it depends on your application and measurement I suppose. We were talking about distributed math apps. I'm told there were, probably third party, sound cards for qbus. Has anyone of you seen one or know more? I haven't. I have a really neat Qbus card with a TMS9918 sprite-based video chip on it, though! -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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QBUS sound [Was: Re: [HECnet] Parallel computing using DECnet]

by pontus＠Update.UU.SE

On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 11:58:56PM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote: There are very few PDP-11s that won't kick the living snot out of a Commodore 64, FYI. I've yet to see a PDP-11 with builtin color graphics _and_ sound. The 64 probably outsold all models of 11 taken together. so it depends on your application and measurement I suppose. I'm told there were, probably third party, sound cards for qbus. Has anyone of you seen one or know more? /P

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Parallel computing using DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 05/01/2014 11:41 PM, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Oh man ha ha so we are going to do amazing things with 64kb. Like those demo scene guys and their commodore 64's. Alright fractals sound like a good first project for something like this. ...we do have 64kb available right? :) There are very few PDP-11s that won't kick the living snot out of a Commodore 64, FYI. But using FORTRAN, we could potentially use overlays and such. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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by jovan.trujillo2＠gmail.com

Oh man so we are going to do amazing things with 64 KB nodes ha ha. I like fractals sounds like a good application for what we have. ...we do have 64KB available right? :) Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Alrighty so no dynamic memory management. Then should we limit memory allocation to 1 MB per node? What's everybody got to offer? The largest memory baord in the systems I have on hand right now is...1M ;) On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2014-05-02 02:00, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Yeah put all those machines to work! PDP-11 for sure. So what's the common denominator for software development here? Do we all have C compilers? I was thinking of starting with something simple, like finding solutions to Beal's Conjecture for crazy large numbers. More common, and generating better code: FORTRAN 77. Johnny On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net <mailto:b4 at gewt.net>> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/01/2014 12:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Speaking of PDP-11s, has your intermediary gotten the haul from VCF your way yet? Yes! I haven't looked at them yet, but they're here, safe and sound. I'll work out a way to get them to you soon. Cool! Back to work now. Back to waiting on crap in my case. ;) -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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by jovan.trujillo2＠gmail.com

Oh man ha ha so we are going to do amazing things with 64kb. Like those demo scene guys and their commodore 64's. Alright fractals sound like a good first project for something like this. ...we do have 64kb available right? :) Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Alrighty so no dynamic memory management. Then should we limit memory allocation to 1 MB per node? What's everybody got to offer? The largest memory baord in the systems I have on hand right now is...1M ;) On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2014-05-02 02:00, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Yeah put all those machines to work! PDP-11 for sure. So what's the common denominator for software development here? Do we all have C compilers? I was thinking of starting with something simple, like finding solutions to Beal's Conjecture for crazy large numbers. More common, and generating better code: FORTRAN 77. Johnny On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net <mailto:b4 at gewt.net>> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/01/2014 12:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Speaking of PDP-11s, has your intermediary gotten the haul from VCF your way yet? Yes! I haven't looked at them yet, but they're here, safe and sound. I'll work out a way to get them to you soon. Cool! Back to work now. Back to waiting on crap in my case. ;) -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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Config tool feature request

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

Still doesn't like you. :) Reloading router: 75.49.13.201 hecnetconfigupdate 199.166.5.172 tunnel-dev.gimme-sympathy.org-ipv4.txt Error reloading router: dev.gimme-sympathy.org :: No SNMP response received before timeout -brian On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 05:28:12PM -0400, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote: If your dyndns updates it'll automatically happen. Otherwise it'll have to wait until later when (if?) I get a chance to sit down at the computer. Have a billion things to do before we head out of town tomorrow. I've updated it. The script hasn't happened though. -brian On May 1, 2014, at 15:50, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote: dev.gimme-sympathy.org (75.49.0.26) Erm. Manually push to 75.49.13.20 now. Router upgrade finished. -brian -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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Config tool feature request

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 05:28:12PM -0400, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Brian Hechinger wrote: If your dyndns updates it'll automatically happen. Otherwise it'll have to wait until later when (if?) I get a chance to sit down at the computer. Have a billion things to do before we head out of town tomorrow. I've updated it. The script hasn't happened though. Ooops, I never set the cron job back up on the new machine. :) Reason for change: Modified Tunnel52: Cory Smelosky (Area 9) "ip" changed from "75.49.17.245" to "75.49.13.201" Does that seem right to you? -brian -brian On May 1, 2014, at 15:50, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote: dev.gimme-sympathy.org (75.49.0.26) Erm. Manually push to 75.49.13.20 now. Router upgrade finished. -brian -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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[Simh] [HECnet] TOPS-20 V4.1 DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Thu, 1 May 2014, Cory Smelosky wrote: Looks like there's no DMC on the PDP-10, no DMC OR KDP on the MicroVAX, and no KDP on the VAX780. However, the PDP-11 has the DUP. Looks like I can use that as the go-between. Wonderinf if this is an RSTS/E bug...or a simh bug. Device XK0: does not interrupt - device disabled. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects _______________________________________________ Simh mailing list Simh at trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh

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Parallel computing using DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Thu, 1 May 2014, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Alrighty so no dynamic memory management. Then should we limit memory allocation to 1 MB per node? What's everybody got to offer? The largest memory baord in the systems I have on hand right now is...1M ;) On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2014-05-02 02:00, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Yeah put all those machines to work! PDP-11 for sure. So what's the common denominator for software development here? Do we all have C compilers? I was thinking of starting with something simple, like finding solutions to Beal's Conjecture for crazy large numbers. More common, and generating better code: FORTRAN 77. Johnny On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net <mailto:b4 at gewt.net>> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/01/2014 12:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Speaking of PDP-11s, has your intermediary gotten the haul from VCF your way yet? Yes! I haven't looked at them yet, but they're here, safe and sound. I'll work out a way to get them to you soon. Cool! Back to work now. Back to waiting on crap in my case. ;) -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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Parallel computing using DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/01/2014 08:10 PM, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Alrighty so no dynamic memory management. Then should we limit memory allocation to 1 MB per node? What's everybody got to offer? That might be tough on the smaller (18-bit addressing) PDP-11s. I only have a few of those though. ;) -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Fractals would probably be an easier thing to start with.. -Dave On 05/01/2014 08:00 PM, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Yeah put all those machines to work! PDP-11 for sure. So what's the common denominator for software development here? Do we all have C compilers? I was thinking of starting with something simple, like finding solutions to Beal's Conjecture for crazy large numbers. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net <mailto:b4 at gewt.net>> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/01/2014 12:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Speaking of PDP-11s, has your intermediary gotten the haul from VCF your way yet? Yes! I haven't looked at them yet, but they're here, safe and sound. I'll work out a way to get them to you soon. Cool! Back to work now. Back to waiting on crap in my case. ;) -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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TOPS-20 V4.1 DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

Looks like there's no DMC on the PDP-10, no DMC OR KDP on the MicroVAX, and no KDP on the VAX780. However, the PDP-11 has the DUP. Looks like I can use that as the go-between. -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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Parallel computing using DECnet

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2014-05-02 02:14, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/01/2014 08:13 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2014-05-02 02:10, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Alrighty so no dynamic memory management. Then should we limit memory allocation to 1 MB per node? What's everybody got to offer? 1MB per node? With PDP11s? Are you crazy??? Ahem. You'll note that I found a much more, erm, "diplomatic" way to say that. ;) :-D Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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TOPS-20 V4.1 DECnet

by b4＠gewt.net

On Fri, 2 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2014-05-02 01:42, Cory Smelosky wrote: On Fri, 2 May 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2014-05-02 01:37, Cory Smelosky wrote: Hello, Is TOPS-20's DECnet stack Phase III or IV? I'm trying to throw it in to the rest of the stuff using a VMS VM. TOPS-20 V4.1? That would be phase III only. If it even exists... It exists for sure! $INFORMATION (ABOUT) VERSION GSORG TOPS-20 V4.1 KS10, TOPS-20 Monitor 4.1(5471) TOPS-20 Command processor 5.1(1354) Program is OPR, version is 4(414) $INFORMATION (ABOUT) DECNET Local DECNET node: TOPS20 Accessible DECNET nodes are: TOPS20 Ok. Cool. I seem to remember various issues and stuff with DECnet on a KS and TOPS-20, but I don't recall details. I'll find 'em once I bring VMS 4.6 up, most likely. ;) Thanks. I thought it was Phase III but wasn't sure. Can Phase IV work with Phase III? There's some rule pertaining to that I forgot... Yes, it can. The limitations are that phase III nodes can only talk with machines in the same area, and only machines with node numbers less than 256 (obviously). I thought it was something like that. Thanks. Johnny -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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Parallel computing using DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 05/01/2014 08:13 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2014-05-02 02:10, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Alrighty so no dynamic memory management. Then should we limit memory allocation to 1 MB per node? What's everybody got to offer? 1MB per node? With PDP11s? Are you crazy??? Ahem. You'll note that I found a much more, erm, "diplomatic" way to say that. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Parallel computing using DECnet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 05/01/2014 08:10 PM, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Alrighty so no dynamic memory management. Then should we limit memory allocation to 1 MB per node? What's everybody got to offer? That might be tough on the smaller (18-bit addressing) PDP-11s. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Parallel computing using DECnet

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2014-05-02 02:10, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Alrighty so no dynamic memory management. Then should we limit memory allocation to 1 MB per node? What's everybody got to offer? 1MB per node? With PDP11s? Are you crazy??? Johnny On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote: On 2014-05-02 02:00, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Yeah put all those machines to work! PDP-11 for sure. So what's the common denominator for software development here? Do we all have C compilers? I was thinking of starting with something simple, like finding solutions to Beal's Conjecture for crazy large numbers. More common, and generating better code: FORTRAN 77. Johnny On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net <mailto:b4 at gewt.net> <mailto:b4 at gewt.net <mailto:b4 at gewt.net>>> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/01/2014 12:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Speaking of PDP-11s, has your intermediary gotten the haul from VCF your way yet? Yes! I haven't looked at them yet, but they're here, safe and sound. I'll work out a way to get them to you soon. Cool! Back to work now. Back to waiting on crap in my case. ;) -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Parallel computing using DECnet

by jovan.trujillo2＠gmail.com

Alrighty so no dynamic memory management. Then should we limit memory allocation to 1 MB per node? What's everybody got to offer? On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2014-05-02 02:00, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Yeah put all those machines to work! PDP-11 for sure. So what's the common denominator for software development here? Do we all have C compilers? I was thinking of starting with something simple, like finding solutions to Beal's Conjecture for crazy large numbers. More common, and generating better code: FORTRAN 77. Johnny On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net <mailto:b4 at gewt.net>> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/01/2014 12:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Speaking of PDP-11s, has your intermediary gotten the haul from VCF your way yet? Yes! I haven't looked at them yet, but they're here, safe and sound. I'll work out a way to get them to you soon. Cool! Back to work now. Back to waiting on crap in my case. ;) -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Parallel computing using DECnet

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2014-05-02 02:00, Jovan Trujillo wrote: Yeah put all those machines to work! PDP-11 for sure. So what's the common denominator for software development here? Do we all have C compilers? I was thinking of starting with something simple, like finding solutions to Beal's Conjecture for crazy large numbers. More common, and generating better code: FORTRAN 77. Johnny On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net <mailto:b4 at gewt.net>> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/01/2014 12:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Speaking of PDP-11s, has your intermediary gotten the haul from VCF your way yet? Yes! I haven't looked at them yet, but they're here, safe and sound. I'll work out a way to get them to you soon. Cool! Back to work now. Back to waiting on crap in my case. ;) -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Parallel computing using DECnet

by jovan.trujillo2＠gmail.com

Yeah put all those machines to work! PDP-11 for sure. So what's the common denominator for software development here? Do we all have C compilers? I was thinking of starting with something simple, like finding solutions to Beal's Conjecture for crazy large numbers. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014, Dave McGuire wrote: On 05/01/2014 12:10 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Speaking of PDP-11s, has your intermediary gotten the haul from VCF your way yet? Yes! I haven't looked at them yet, but they're here, safe and sound. I'll work out a way to get them to you soon. Cool! Back to work now. Back to waiting on crap in my case. ;) -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

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